{"id":966,"date":"2018-12-03T02:50:56","date_gmt":"2018-12-03T02:50:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/?p=966"},"modified":"2023-02-25T21:25:45","modified_gmt":"2023-02-25T21:25:45","slug":"tieng-viet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/tieng-viet\/","title":{"rendered":"<span tooltip=\"Vietnamese\">Ti\u1ebfng Vi\u1ec7t<\/span>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My goal is to read and write in Vietnamese, understand native speakers, and speak well enough to have meaningful conversations with native speakers.<br \/>\n[ <a href=\"\/v\/vi-progress\">Progress Log<\/a> ]<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h2><span tooltip=\"To Do List\">Nh\u1eefng Vi\u1ec7c C\u1ea7n L\u00e0m<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>+ <em style=\"color:#966;\">currently deferring study<\/em><br \/>\n+ pronunciation<br \/>\n+ Ti\u1ebfng Vi\u1ec7t numbers<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h2><span tooltip=\"Recommendations\">Khuy\u1ebfn Ngh\u1ecbm<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><em>These are approaches that I have found the most useful, and would recommend to anyone learning Vietnamese.<\/em><\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>1. Study for 1100 hours.<\/h3>\n<p>According to research, you&#8217;ll do well after <a href=\"\/v\/fsi-diff\/\">1100 hours<\/a> of <a href=\"\/v\/advice\/#immersion\">immersive<\/a> study in Vietnamese. If you average one-hour of immersive study per day, then it should take 3 years. At three hours per day, then it should take one year. If only ten minutes per day, then it will take 18 years.<\/p>\n<p>This can be broken down, e.g.,<br \/>\n<em>250 hours,<\/em> Learn new words and concepts (20 per hour, ~5000 words)<br \/>\n<em>250 hours,<\/em> Practice recall to automaticity (400 words per-hour)<br \/>\n<em>300 hours,<\/em> Reading and Writing<br \/>\n<em>300 hours,<\/em> Conversation<\/p>\n<p>This assumes the goal is to achieve basic fluency, in other words, to have a meaningful conversation with a native speaker. I recommend keeping a <a href=\"\/v\/vi-progress\">Progress Log<\/a> to keep track of your learning (as it&#8217;s easy to get overwhelmed).<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>2. Learn to read and pronounce.<\/h3>\n<p>Fortunately, modern Vietnamese uses a phonetic writing system, using the latin alphabet with diacritics. This means that you&#8217;ll be able to read out loud before you even know what you&#8217;re saying. Unfortunately, Vietnamese pronunciation is extremely difficult, and rather unforgiving to minor mistakes. You can learn to <a href=\"\/v\/vi-typing\">write and type<\/a> easily, although the <a href=\"\/v\/vi-pronounce\">phonemes and tones<\/a> will take a lot practice.<\/p>\n<p>I recommend practicing reading to a native speaker until you can be understood (even if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re reading).<\/p>\n<hr>\n<div class=\"green\">\n<h3>Useful Resources<\/h3>\n<p>+ <a href=\"http:\/\/happyhanoi.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">happyhanoi.com<\/a>, by far the best resource available for pronunciation.<br \/>\n+ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCoHqnZy_SFICoaC0M-iLlRg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Learn Vietnamese with Annie<\/a><br \/>\n+ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCBWZ4YRAivDHkIhNMs6iQ4A\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">TVO<\/a>, a bit heavy on English and self-promotion, but some useful videos.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<hr>\n<h2><span tooltip=\"Not Recommended\">Kh\u00f4ng \u0110\u01b0\u1ee3c Khuy\u1ebfn Kh\u00edch<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><em>These are resources that I tried, but either didn\u2019t enjoy or didn\u2019t find useful.<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"darkred\">\n+ duolingo, not very useful, the complexities of Vietnamese are not well captured with duolingo.<br \/>\n+ anki, too much <a href=\"\/v\/advice#immersion2\">accidental complexity<\/a> to be useful.<br \/>\n+ https:\/\/123vietnamese.com\/, poor quality, bad audio<\/p>\n<p><!-- fuck you wp --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My goal is to read and write in Vietnamese, understand native speakers, and speak well enough to have meaningful conversations with native speakers. [ Progress Log ] Nh\u1eefng Vi\u1ec7c C\u1ea7n L\u00e0m + currently deferring study + pronunciation + Ti\u1ebfng Vi\u1ec7t numbers Khuy\u1ebfn Ngh\u1ecbm These are approaches that I have found the most useful, and would [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-966","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tieng-viet"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/966","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=966"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/966\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1351,"href":"https:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/966\/revisions\/1351"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=966"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=966"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lingua.avant.net\/v\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=966"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}